{"id":1074,"date":"2018-09-20T16:25:17","date_gmt":"2018-09-20T14:25:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/?p=1074"},"modified":"2025-03-03T09:29:11","modified_gmt":"2025-03-03T08:29:11","slug":"vietnam-2018-ischnura-mildredae","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/2018\/09\/20\/vietnam-2018-ischnura-mildredae\/","title":{"rendered":"Vietnam 2018 &#8211; Ischnura mildredae ?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\" style=\"font-size:15px\">J&rsquo;ai mis un point d&rsquo;interrogation apr\u00e8s le nom d&rsquo;esp\u00e8ce, car l&rsquo;identification de Ischnura mildredae pose un probl\u00e8me, nous l&rsquo;avions d&rsquo;ailleurs appel\u00e9e <em>carpentieri<\/em> sur place. Il existe une controverse autour du groupe <em>rufostigma<\/em> qui serait compos\u00e9 de 4 esp\u00e8ces, dont <em>carpentieri<\/em> pour certains auteurs comme G.S. Vick (1), alors qu&rsquo;Asahina, 1970 y voit une esp\u00e8ce et des sous-esp\u00e8ces. Ces quatre esp\u00e8ces valides selon Vick sont donc <em>carpentieri<\/em>, <em>rufostigma<\/em>, <em>annandalei<\/em> et <em>mildredae<\/em>, alors que pour Asahina <em>annandalei<\/em> et <em>carpentieri<\/em> sont des synonymes de <em>mildredae<\/em>, qui est lui-m\u00eame une sous-esp\u00e8ce de <em>rufostigma<\/em>&#8230;<br>Pourtant, Vick a bien soulign\u00e9 des diff\u00e9rences structurelles au niveau du tubercule qu&rsquo;ils portent sur le S10, et sur la forme des appendices anaux.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1712\" height=\"1204\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-1.jpg\" alt=\"Ischnura mildredae m\u00e2le, Vietnam, Pia Oac, 5 juin 2018\" class=\"wp-image-1075 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1712px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1712\/1204;width:562px;height:395px\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-1.jpg 1712w, https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-1-768x540.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-1-1200x844.jpg 1200w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1712px) 100vw, 1712px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ischnura mildredae m\u00e2le, Vietnam, Pia Oac, 5 juin 2018<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\">La photo du sujet ci-dessous montre des appendices anaux \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s nets, ce qui a permis de tenter un agrandissement.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-3.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"2213\" height=\"1204\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-3.jpg\" alt=\"Ischnura mildredae, Vietnam, Pia Oac, 5 juin 2018\" class=\"wp-image-1078 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 2213px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 2213\/1204;width:600px;height:326px\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-3.jpg 2213w, https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-3-768x418.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-3-1200x653.jpg 1200w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 2213px) 100vw, 2213px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ischnura mildredae, Vietnam, Pia Oac, 5 juin 2018<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:15px\">\n\nEt j&rsquo;ai donc successivement pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 les sch\u00e9mas qui figurent dans le document de Vick cit\u00e9 ci-dessus et l&rsquo;agrandissement des derniers segments de ce sujet.\n\n<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"945\" height=\"1200\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/rufostigma.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1080 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 945px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 945\/1200;width:478px;height:auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/rufostigma.jpg 945w, https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/rufostigma-768x975.jpg 768w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 945px) 100vw, 945px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"358\" height=\"272\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-3-appendices-anaux.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1081 lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 358px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 358\/272;\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ischnura mildredae, Vietnam, Pia Oac, 5 juin 2018 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:15px\">Si on compare mon sujet avec le n\u00b0 6 du sch\u00e9ma, soit I. carpentieri, on note une nette diff\u00e9rence tant au niveau du tubercule dorsal qu&rsquo;au niveau de la forme des appendices anaux inf\u00e9rieurs.<br>Mon sujet est certainement beaucoup plus proche du n\u00b0 7, soit I. mildredae avec son tubercule dans l&rsquo;axe du segment et les appendices anaux tr\u00e8s aigus et recourb\u00e9s vers le haut.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:15px\">Quoi qu&rsquo;il en soit, ces sujets font partie du groupe <em>rufostigma<\/em>, appellation facile \u00e0 comprendre quand on remarque les pt\u00e9rostigmas rouge\u00e2tres des ailes ant\u00e9rieures. C&rsquo;est un animal spectaculaire par sa coloration qui ne passe pas inaper\u00e7u m\u00eame s&rsquo;il est minuscule, environ&nbsp; 29 mm,&nbsp; 23 mm pour l&rsquo;abdomen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"2026\" height=\"1204\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-2.jpg\" alt=\"Ischnura carpentieri m\u00e2le\" class=\"wp-image-1076 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 2026px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 2026\/1204;width:579px;height:344px\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-2.jpg 2026w, https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-2-768x456.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/ischnura-carpentieri-2-1200x713.jpg 1200w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 2026px) 100vw, 2026px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ischnura mildredae m\u00e2le, Vietnam, Khau Pha, 10 juin 2018<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:15px\">Parmi les Ischnura du groupe rufostigma que j&rsquo;ai rencontr\u00e9s soit durant ce tour en 2018,&nbsp; soit au Vietnam en 2012, soit au Laos en 2010 j&rsquo;ai remarqu\u00e9 que pour tous les sujets qui ont l&rsquo;apex du 6\u00b0 segment noirci, comme le sujet ci-dessus, le 2\u00b0 segment l&rsquo;est aussi. Les autres n&rsquo;ont soit pas du tout de noir sur S2, soit une infime partie de sa partie proximale. D&rsquo;ailleurs le sujet ci-dessus qui est dans ce cas montre des pt\u00e9rostigmas l\u00e9g\u00e8rement diff\u00e9rents, sans jaune \u00e0 l&rsquo;apex.<br>Cette diff\u00e9rence de coloration des pt\u00e9rostigmas est utilis\u00e9 par Mitra et Babu dans \u00ab\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/dli.zoological.occpapers.315\"><em>Revision of Indian species of the Families Platycnemididae and Coenagrionidae<\/em>\u00ab\u00a0<\/a>, juillet 2010, pour diff\u00e9rencier rufostigma, anandalei et mildredae, et cela me laisse tout de m\u00eame un peu r\u00eaveur qu&rsquo;on construise une cl\u00e9 sur des caract\u00e8res de coloration aussi subjectifs (rouge brique pour I. rufostigma rufostigma\/ rouge orang\u00e9 pour I. rufostigma anandalei).<br>Seul peut-\u00eatre le \u00ab\u00a0crit\u00e8re\u00a0\u00bb attribu\u00e9 \u00e0 I. rufostigma mildredae serait plus discriminant, puisque les pt\u00e9rostigmas sont donn\u00e9s avec une bordure distale jaune, ce que l&rsquo;on v\u00e9rifie d&rsquo;ailleurs sur les deux premi\u00e8res photos de cet article.<br>L&rsquo;identification du&nbsp;&nbsp;3\u00b0 sujet est donc \u00e0 prendre avec encore plus de pr\u00e9cautions&#8230; <br><br>Quant \u00e0 la r\u00e9partition de l&rsquo;esp\u00e8ce, elle est impossible \u00e0 d\u00e9terminer tant que la taxonomie ne sera pas largement admise&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:29px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:13px\">1- G.S. Vick, 1986 &#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/natuurtijdschriften.nl\/pub\/591755\/OJIOS1986015003005.pdf\"> A note on the group of species allied to Ischnura rufostigma Selys (Zygoptera: Coenagrionidae)<\/a> &#8211;<br>Odonalologica 15(3): 347-351<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:31px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-vertical is-layout-flex wp-container-core-buttons-is-layout-fe9cc265 wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/odonates-du-vietnam-2012-2018\/\">Accueil Vietnam<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"http:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/pagesweb\/divers\/liste-generale-odonates-du-site\/asia-odonates.php\">Liste Asie<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.meslibellules.fr\/blog\/\">Accueil<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>J&rsquo;ai mis un point d&rsquo;interrogation apr\u00e8s le nom d&rsquo;esp\u00e8ce, car l&rsquo;identification de Ischnura mildredae pose un probl\u00e8me, nous l&rsquo;avions d&rsquo;ailleurs appel\u00e9e carpentieri sur place. Il existe une controverse autour du groupe rufostigma qui serait compos\u00e9 de 4 esp\u00e8ces, dont carpentieri pour certains auteurs comme G.S. Vick (1), alors qu&rsquo;Asahina, 1970 y voit une esp\u00e8ce et [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"image","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"set","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[20,54],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1074","post","type-post","status-publish","format-image","hentry","category-coenagrionidae","category-vietnam","post_format-post-format-image"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - 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